[Avodah] Kivrey Avos

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Thu Jun 21 12:42:52 PDT 2012



 

From: Zev Sero <zev at sero.name>

>>  The  machlokes in Brachos 18a-19a is about whether they know what's
going on  *outside* the cemetery.  R Yonoson is the only one who thought
they were  completely unaware, and he retracted his opinion.  There is
certainly a  lot of material indicating that they are unaware of what's
happening in the  outside world, and therefore if one wants them to know
one must go to their  graves and inform them; hence Yirmiyahu going to
Mearas Hamachpela and Har  Nevo, because without that the Avos and Moshe
would not have heard of the  churban. <<



-- 
Zev  Sero
zev at sero.name





>>>>>
 
[1] What about the idea that those who have passed away come back and  go 
to the simchas of their relatives and descendants?  They must know about  the 
weddings at least!  Or do you have to explicitly invite them if you  want 
them to come?
 
[2] What do you think of the Chabad idea that the Rebbe is everywhere and  
knows everything, including the thoughts of his chassidim?  I don't know  
whether this is a mainstream or fringe Chabad belief but it's certainly out  
there.
 
 
 

--Toby  Katz
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Romney -- good  values, good family, good  hair


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