[Avodah] torture in halacha???

[David Riceman]

RMB:

<<But that only works if the person actually is capable of hearing your 
reason and "leisovei daateih uleqabeil mei'avah asher yeia'ara lo". I 
don't see how his exception to the qv"ch's reasoning would apply to 
torture.>>

I don't know how reasonable you believe it to be, but a similar case 
occurs near the end of the second act of Patience (right before the 
reprise of A Most Intense Young Man - - if you have access to The 
Complete Annotated Gilbert & Sullivan it's on pp 343-344).

David Riceman