[Avodah] Chief Rabbi Metzger: Women can lead Seder

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Tue Apr 3 10:29:55 PDT 2012


On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 04:56:28PM +0000, kennethgmiller at juno.com wrote:
:> So, does RYM expect women to make zimun with men around to? If
:> not, vos iz der chiluq (VIDC)?

: Maybe he does; I don't know. But if not, I would suggest that the
: chiluq is that Chazal specifically exempted the women from zimun...

That's Tosafos's resolution of a contradiction between Eirachin 3a,
which includes women in the chiyuv zimun, and Berachos 45a which says
they may not make a zimun. The next amud, 45b, says they do -- which
isn't clearly a chiyuv. The Beis Yoseif also holds it's optional.

Not so the Rosh or Roqeiach -- who hold that in the absense of men making
a zimun, 3 women are mechuyavos to make their own.

Given that it's a machloqes rishonim, I would think RYM's sevara can
be taken to lean to one side over the other. Again, unless he defines
a chiluq between birchas hamazon and sippur yetzi'as Mitzrayim.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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