[Avodah] costa concordia

[Micha Berger]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 02:33:41PM -0400, Rich, Joel wrote:
: 1. Is the statement of the crew's obligation based on an "umdna" that
: this is what they get paid for? Is the expectation set by halacha or
: the company's training and employee's contractual obligations or is this
: some Halachic standard set outside of these agreements?

I understood R' Zilberstein differently.

It's not about the pay or contract directly, but because the others only
were in this mess because they had an expectation that the crew knew what
to do in the case of an emergency and would do it.

: 4.Why does the most help needed make a halachic difference to the order
: of the mishna if someone will not be saved who would have otherwise.

The conventional rules of triage maximize the number of people
saved. Perhaps that's more of an issue than who. Just thinking out loud.

: Bottom Line -- the horiyot priorities once again get treated as a tertiary
: methodology, unclear why.

At some point you have to conclude that the rules are /never/ taken
as primary. Vehara'ayah, the very next mishnah is the famous "mamzer
talmud chakham" vs "kohein gadol am haaretz". So, if the whole list of
rules is secondary to talmud Torah (and perhaps not current knowledge --
"shevirei luchos" too?) is it such a stretch to understand why poseqim
assume it is even lower down the criteria list, perhaps even "if all
else were equal"

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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