[Avodah] [Areivim] chareidi soldiers in zahal

[Liron Kopinsky]

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:04 AM, harchinam <harchinam at gmail.com> wrote:

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>> and in the third the officer forced them to get on board and didn't give
>>> them a chance to call."
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>> I echo RJK's request for someone who actually served to pipe in here, as
>> I'm confused. On the one hand, the army seems to have failed their
>> obligations to these soldiers by not providing them a male pilot.
>>
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> I'm not confused and the army didn't fail anyone. I think that in the case
> of a terrorist who is fleeing one could make a strong case for pikuach
> nefesh -- especially if the reason we know he's a terrorist is because he
> just proved it minutes before. In such a case, it wouldn't matter if it was
> a woman or a man who was the pilot; the inyan is to get there quickly and
> catch the terrorist. What if she were the only pilot available at that
> moment for whatever reason? And even if you think that they could have sent
> a man instead, that was one of those "act now, complain later" scenarios.
>
> Think of it this way: what if a man and his child were on a relatively
> deserted roadway and there had just been a terrible accident or a violent
> crime and the man had to get his child to the hospital as quickly as
> possible. Every second was crucial and here comes a car down the road! But,
> alas, a woman is driving the car. Would he let his child die rather than
> get into a car driven by a woman?
>
> Is this not the definition of a chasid shoteh?
>

One could argue that things in the army are different, as they have built
in protocol how to handle things. They could very easily have a squadron of
male pilots who are always used with the Charedi troops. And if they made
this promise to those soldiers, then they have to make sure that they are
available.

Granted, if there were no other pilots available the army should not be
faulted here, but since this is something that they deal with every day,
and not a random occurrence on a deserted roadway, this is something that
should be planned for.

If there was a particular hospital that had some male and some female OBs
on staff, and they had a group of patients who came regularly who always
preferred a female OB. I would think it the hospitals duty to try and
ensure that the rotation always has some women doctor available. If there
was a sudden influx of patients who needed women doctors, and the hospital
just couldn't provide then obviously the hospital isn't at fault, but the
hospital should be doing their best to meet this demand.

Parenthetically, I can't figure out what the issue with a female pilot
could possibly be. She's in the front and they're in the back.

Kol Tuv,
Liron
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