[Avodah] Clear Thinking About Male Homosexuals

[Lisa Liel]

On 2/22/2012 12:17 AM, T613K at aol.com wrote:
> [1] It is not necessarily the case that all the seven mitzvos are 
> things people instinctively know.  Eiver min hachai?  Even murder -- 
> people may instinctively know that it's wrong in general, but they 
> find it easy to rationalize exceptions in which it's fine:  if a 
> person is suffering, or old, or handicapped, or useless; if the person 
> is a Jew and therefore not "really" a person; if the person is an 
> infidel.  Etc.  But in the case of sexual sins I think that you are 
> right and that people do instinctively feel a revulsion towards 
> certain acts, a revulsion that has to be "educated" out of them before 
> they will commit these acts.  Every society has some kind of incest 
> taboo, for example.  And probably homosexual acts are in this category 
> of something that people in every society instinctively feel is wrong 
> -- if not morally wrong, then at any rate unnatural.

Since this is Avodah, and not Areivim, perhaps you could offer a source 
for this statement, which in my experience is categorically incorrect.

>
> [3]  "Evolutionary advantage"?  Perhaps you should rather have said, 
> "survival advantage."  Evolution is an unproven hypothesis and even if 
> it did occur, it was Divinely guided.  We have to say that the natural 
> attraction between men and women is something that was implanted in us 
> by our Creator so that the human race would continue.  (He also 
> created people who are not destined to marry or have children, for 
> various reasons known to Him.  File under, "why is there suffering in 
> the world?")  But if you /are/ going to talk about evolutionary 
> advantage, you do have to answer this question:  what possible 
> evolutionary or survival advantage could there be in certain people 
> being genetically homosexual?  One would think that such a trait would 
> long since have died out.

Good point.  Clearly it wasn't simple evolution.  It must be part of 
Hashem's plan.

Lisa
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