[Avodah] Well, we are back to the achbor shechetsyo basar vechetsyo adama in the daf yomi

hankman hankman at bell.net
Mon Oct 31 07:36:21 PDT 2011


Well, we are back to the achbor shechetsyo basar vechetsyo adama in the daf yomi. I know this has been discussed in the past, but I guess it is time for a repeat. Does anybody have a peshat in this Mishna and gemara Chulin 126b (as well as the gemara in Sanhedrin 91a) that does not run afoul of modern scientific understanding? I think the previous discussions were pre Slifkin ban. Any new ideas post Slifkin ban? I do believe that we are MECHUYAV to look for a peshat that does not incorporate what is currently believed to be untrue scientifically into Toras Emes.

I have come across one alternate peshat which that author (see Or Toras Moshe, mamar 5-7. p. 108 by R. Yehuda Moshe Bok with a hascama from R. Dov Aryeh Levin) writes as a lulai divrai rashi hayisi omer. If I understand him correctly, he brings rayos and Pesukim (Beraishis) against Rashi that all shekatsim and remashim are born from procreation (not spontaneously). (Even kinim at least according to R. Eliezer and Abaiye). He also debates the Tiferes Yisroel reliance on Prof. Link etc. He would want to explain our gemara (Chulin) that it is talking about an achbor that died and half the body rotted (returned to adama) and the other half was still recognizably basar. Then if you touch the basar you are tamai but if you touch the rotten side (the adama) you are tahor. I am not sure how he explains the gemara in Sanhedrin. In mamar 7 he discusses the Gr”a and his shita in shekatsim and remashim etc but he goes into the zohar where I began to lose him , but in conclusion he seems to stick with his assertion that even all shekatsim and remashim do procreate – vayivoreich osom Elokim laimor pru urevu ... (day 5).

Kol Tuv

Chaim Manaster
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