[Avodah] Sim shalom-Shalom Rav

[Micha Berger]

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:14:11PM +0300, D&E-H Bannett wrote:
> It's true that the source from the geniza from which I quoted the sim 
> shlom'kha nusach does not say where it was said.  It is considered to be 
> from Eretz Yisrael because it is the complete sh'moneh esrei and has 
> other signs of E"Y nusach.

> In addition to BA"H oseh ha-shalom (that is sometimes found in Bavel and 
> therefore isn't 100% proof of E"Y) it also has the two Bavel b'rakhot 
> "matzmiach keren yeshu'a" and "boneh Yerushalayim" combined in a single 
> b'rakha and other "known" E"Y nuschaot....

My point wasn't that this fragment didn't qualify as a likely nusach EY
candidate. I was arguing that it isn't uniquely qualified. It's guesswork
to know which of the version*s* that have 18 berakhos were used in EY,
and it's quite possible the Shalom Rav version and the Sim Shelomekha
version (both combine berakhos 14 and 15) were used in different parts
of EY or at different times.

For that matter, the geniza has /four/ different vesions of Shomeia'
Tefillah (all with that chasimah). For Machon Shilo to pick among
them -- and again, they pick the shortest of the four -- requires some
element that is less than certain.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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