[Avodah] Sim shalom-Shalom Rav

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Mon Sep 19 06:21:08 PDT 2011


On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 03:15:53PM +0300, D&E-H Bannett wrote:
> The nusach eretz Yisrael from the geniza is:
...

Except that there are two other nusachos from the geniza, and AFAIK
none of them give context about where they were said. In addition to
Sim Shelomekha, there are also Sim Shalom and Shalom Rav.

Shalom Rav in particular is a candidate for Nusach EY, as it is used by
Ashkenazim but not Sepharadim. Although we would have to explain how it
traveled from EY to Ashkenaz without stopping off in Italy. But still,
it has the Roman Empire connection (as opposed to Bavel off in the
Sassanid [neo Persian?] Empire). And if we don't presume a Roman Empire
connection, then there is little reason to assume Nusach Kahir (Cairo)
has any connection to Nusach EY.

Interestingly, the version of Sim Shalom is identical to Ashkenaz.
The Cairo Geniza version of Sim Shalom doesn't have "bishlomekh" nor
"berov oz veshalom" in the phrase immediately before the chasimah.

Moreso than R' Saadia Gaon's, which I'll try to give here:
    Sim shalom tovah uvrakhah aleinu chein vachesed verachamim
    uvorkheinu kulanu ke'echad bime'or panekha
    ki mime'or panekha nasata lanu YYY E-lokeinu
    Torah vechaim, ahavah vachesed, tzedaqah verachamim
    vetov be'eimnekh levareik es amkha Yisrael bekhol eis.
    Sim shalom ba'olam
    ve'al amkha Yisrael yehi na shalom
    me'atah ve'ad alom.
    BA"H hamevreihk es amo Yisrael bashalom.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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