[Avodah] moon and sun
T613K at aol.com
T613K at aol.com
Tue Sep 6 15:09:42 PDT 2011
From: Zev Sero <zev at sero.name>
> The whole difference between modern and ancient science is that
> ancient science rested on authority while modern science relies on
> experimental evidence.
And exactly what experiment would you conduct to test whether the
celestial bodies are intelligent?
Zev Sero
zev at sero.name
>>>>
You could try and teach them some tricks and see if they learn anything.
This is silly and overly literal, but I would like to suggest another way
in which it is possible that the sun and the moon could be intelligent, and
could talk to Hashem.
("Two kings can't both share the same crown" "Fine, moon, I'll make you
smaller!" Moon: "Hey, no fair!" "OK well I'm sorry, how about if I give
you a gazillion stars? Will that make you feel better?" "Not really" "Ok
then I'll have My people Israel count their months by your light, and I'll
also have them bring a korban to 'atone' for what I did to you. Now do you
feel better?" "Well maybe, just a little." "OK my final offer is, when
Moshiach comes, I'll make you big again." "Deal!")
What I am thinking is that there is an angel or a sar or a spirit of some
kind for each and every creature, and that the spirit of the sun and the
spirit of the moon could be intelligent and could talk. Lacking bechirah,
they couldn't really be jealous or angry or upset or pacified as humans
could, so you would still need some degree of metaphorical explanation to
interpret that conversation, but they could certainly be intelligent.
--Toby Katz
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