[Avodah] moon and sun

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Tue Sep 6 15:09:42 PDT 2011



 
From: Zev Sero <zev at sero.name>
> The whole difference  between modern and ancient science is that
> ancient science rested on  authority while modern science relies on
> experimental  evidence.

And exactly what experiment would you conduct to test whether  the
celestial bodies are intelligent?


Zev  Sero        
zev at sero.name    



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You could try and teach them some tricks and see if they learn  anything.
 
This is silly and overly literal, but I would like to suggest another way  
in which it is possible that the sun and the moon could be intelligent, and  
could talk to Hashem. 
 
("Two kings can't both share the same crown"  "Fine, moon, I'll make  you 
smaller!"  Moon:  "Hey, no fair!"  "OK well I'm sorry, how  about if I give 
you a gazillion stars?  Will that make you feel  better?"  "Not really"  "Ok 
then I'll have My people Israel count  their months by your light, and I'll 
also have them bring a korban to 'atone'  for what I did to you.  Now do you 
feel better?"  "Well maybe, just a  little."  "OK my final offer is, when 
Moshiach comes, I'll make you big  again."  "Deal!")
 
What I am thinking is that there is an angel or a sar or a spirit of some  
kind for each and every creature, and that the spirit of the sun and  the 
spirit of the moon could be intelligent and could talk.  Lacking  bechirah, 
they couldn't really be jealous or angry or upset or pacified as  humans 
could, so you would still need some degree of metaphorical explanation to  
interpret that conversation, but they could certainly be intelligent.
 

--Toby  Katz
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