[Avodah] Fighting To Be Chazan?

[Prof. Levine]

At 12:05 PM 8/24/2011, R. Zev Sero wrote:

>On 23/08/2011 4:49 PM, Prof. Levine wrote:
> > There is a hierarchy in halacha regarding who gets precedence.
>
>First of all, I've seen such hierarchies for aliyos and for kaddish,
>not for the amud.  Second, if there's only one minyan, then you have
>no choice, and someone has to take precedence.  But whoever misses out
>is going to be hurt.  Or do you expect them to be happy that their
>parent or relative or whoever will miss out on the zechus just because
>someone else showed up with a greater claim?  "Oh, that's OK, tatty
>didn't really need my davening anyway, you go ahead, I'm sure your
>father needs it much more than mine does...."  However you cut it,
>surely you see that this is not a recipe for shalom and goodwill.
>So if there are enough people, why *not* split up?   You're worried
>about "berov am"?  You're constantly quoting R Yisroel Salanter; what
>would he say about the relative values of an impressively large minyan
>davening together versus someone upset and angry that he missed out on
>the amud?

WADR, I have to point out that much of what you have written above 
does not see to be correct.  Please see 
http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/areivim/mourning_kaddish_amud.pdf 
which are some pages from Rabbi Chaim Binyamin Goldberg's Mourning in Halacha.

Note page 375 regarding precedence in leading the davening.

Note footnote 70 on page 367 in particular regarding only one person 
saying kaddish.


> >  In addition, according to the din, which most places do not follow,
> > only one person is supposed to say kaddish at a time.
>
>There is no such halacha.

   While there may be "no such halacha," this is an ancient custom.  Again see

http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/areivim/mourning_kaddish_amud.pdf

as well as http://tinyurl.com/4yceq9x


Yitzchok Levine 
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