[Avodah] "God who knows the future"
Lampel
zvilampel at gmail.com
Sun Aug 14 13:57:10 PDT 2011
> RDC:
<The Ramban is particularly hard to decipher because he is not a full
blown adherent of the Kalam - - he does think that nature exists as more
than a delusion, but he also thinks that God regularly overrules nature
(in fact, he thinks that the overruling itself follows laws).>
--only in the same way the Rambam does: that Hashem makes nature react
favorably or unfavorably in response to man's actions.
*The Rambam* in /Ma'amar Techiass HaMeisim/, citing /pesukim/ and
/Chazal/, distinguishes between miracles that involve the change of the
nature of things, and those that merely manipulate natural possibilities
without making changes in the intrinsic make-up of things. (E.g., they
either intensify natural events, make natural processes uniquely effect
specific locales or peoples, or make different natural phenomena
coincide.) The former, alone, are "inherently non-natural." And the
Rambam insists that such "changes-of-nature" type miracles last only
temporarily, and that those things whose nature changed must eventually
revert to their former nature ---the same point he made in the /Moreh.
/(He adds that this serves to strengthen their status as miracles). On
these grounds, he rejects a literal understanding of "the lion living
peacefully with the lamb" in messianic times, because that entails a
non-reverting and forwardly ongoing change, for an indefinite time, in
the nature of beasts.
(2) *The Ramban, *concerning this rejection of the literal meaning of
"the lion living peacefully with the lamb" in messianic times, raises
two objections, one based on authority, and one based on logic:
(a)A /braissa/ has talmudic authorities taking the peaceful lion
/pesukim/ literally
(b)The Rambam, as stated above, admits that some miracles can last
permanently once initiated, such as that of nature reacting to man's
behavior in a pattern of reward and punishment. The Ramban asks: Since
the Rambam so admits that //some// phenomena that are miracles can last
permanently, and that temporariness is not necessarily a factor for a
miracle to exist, why not allow that to be so for /all /kinds of
miracles across the board? Why create a distinction in durability
between two types of miracles? The Ramban is not pointing out a shift in
the Rambam's position. He is pointing out what he believes to be an
unnecessary factor in the Rambam's formula: namely, that according to
the Rambam's consistent view regarding the "/efshar/" (feasible) type of
miracles, explicated in /Ma'amar Techiyas HaMeisim/, the Rambam admits
that miracles don't //by definition// have to be temporary. That
admission, according to the Ramban, leaves it unnecessary to posit
imposed temporariness on /any/ miracles, including the "non-/efshar/"
type. The Ramban, /contra/ Rambam, does not accept that the /pesukim/
and /Chazal/ saying that nothing is new under the sun, and that the
world runs according to nature, compels one to make an unbreakable rule
that Hashem will never enact permanent changes in the natures of things.
There is therefore no reason, the Ramban says, for the Rambam to deny
the literal interpretation of the /pesukim/ describing a permanent
change in the nature of beasts in the messianic era.
Zvi Lampel
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