[Avodah] Ladies not making Havdallah

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From: Aryeh Herzig <guraryeh at gmail.com>
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>> I  have a theory.

Yerushalmi Berachot says we say Havdallah in Chonen Hadaat  because : Im Ein
Daath Havdallah Minayin".  Since Nashim Daatan Kaloth  they can not make
havdallah. ( Maariv is reshus so ladies don't daven Maariv  anyway so it is
only relevant on Havdallah al HaKos.)

Does this theory  make sense?  <<

Aryeh Herzig




>>>>>
 
No it does not.  "Nashim daatan kalos" does not mean that women have  NO 
daas!
 
Daas is basic intelligence, including the ability to make distinctions  
(e.g., between day and night, between Shabbos and weekdays, between kodesh and  
chol).  
 
"Nashim daatan kalos" means either that women are easily persuaded, or that 
 they are easily misled, or that they are easily seduced -- but not that 
they  have no daas at all and are unable to tell the difference between 
Shabbos and  motzai Shabbos!
 
Your theory would seem to imply that women are not obligated in havdallah,  
and while there does seem to be some such opinion, the consensus is that 
they  are obligated.  Even according to the opinion that women are not 
obligated,  I can't imagine anyone saying the reason is that women have no daas and 
can't  make the necessary distinctions.  
 
After all, regardless of whether they make (or hear) havdallah or not,  
women are still obligated to keep Shabbos.  So I guess they have enough  daas 
to know when it is Shabbos and when it isn't.

 

--Toby  Katz
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