[Avodah] Do Women Need To Hear Eicha?

[Zev Sero]

On 9/08/2011 7:24 PM, Chana Luntz wrote:
> Secondly, even if we say that recitation is a rabbinical mitzvah, why should
> a woman be chayav in it?  I thought the general consensus was with Tosphos
> that even for rabbinic mitzvos, women are patur from mitzvos aseh shehazman
> grama?  Megilla is a special exception amongst other special exceptions, but
> why should Eicha be?  The fact that women may be obligated in the rabbinic
> lo ta'asehs involved in Tisha B'Av, like with any other lo ta'asehs, doesn't
> seem to me to automatically include the asehs. So I just don't understand
> the above "since women are chayav in all the halachos of aveilus of Tisha
> B'Av".   Why is this so, ie why and from where is it derived that this is
> this yet another exception to the standard rule. In the case of Megilla, the
> specific inclusion of women in the mitzvah is explicit in the gemora.  From
> where do we see an explicit inclusion of women in the positive obligations
> of tisha b'av, as opposed to the negative ones (like no eating, no drinking
> etc etc)?

Af hein hayu be'otah pur`anut.  If there were a "chiyuv" on men then it
should logically apply to women too.  But I agree with you that there is
no chiyuv on men either.

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