[Avodah] shabbas//mishum eiva, etc???

[Zev Sero]

On 9/08/2011 5:34 PM, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 05:28:50PM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
>>> See AZ 26a, R' Yosef says that a bas Yisrael may midwife for a nachris
>>> besekhar -- mishum eivah.
>
>> That's during the week, not on Shabbos!
>
> That's his first statement, then the gemara adds:
>      Savar R' Yosef lemeimar aveladei aku"m beShabesa bisekhar shari
>      mishum eiva.

Savar, but he didn't conclude that way, because there's no need.


>>> But in any case, I don't think the idea is acharonic.
>
>> No, it's post-acharonic.
>
> I didn't even know there /was/ a post-acharonic, although I have argued
> that history would someday draw a line at the Shoah.

The era of Acharonim is usually reckoned to have stopped at about 1800
or a bit earlier.  The Chasam Sofer is not an Acharon.


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