[Avodah] shabbas//mishum eiva, etc???

[Zev Sero]

On 9/08/2011 5:23 PM, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 04:42:49PM -0400, Zev Sero wrote:
>> On 9/08/2011 2:56 PM, Micha Berger wrote:
>>> I do not know what specific use of "mishum eivah" RZS is referring to
>>> as bring modern.
>
>> The heter to break shabbos in order to save a nochri did not exist until
>> about 1800...
>
> See AZ 26a, R' Yosef says that a bas Yisrael may midwife for a nachris
> besekhar -- mishum eivah.

That's during the week, not on Shabbos!


> Abaye disagrees on the metzius of whether or
> not this is a likely cause of eivah, not on the halachic concept.

Yes, that is what we're talking about isn't it?


> But in any case, I don't think the idea is acharonic.

No, it's post-acharonic.


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