[Avodah] Havdalah On Wine Motza'ei Shabbos Chazon

[Micha Berger]

On 7/08/2011 1:13 AM, Lisa Liel wrote:
> On 8/5/2011 6:08 AM, Prof. Levine wrote:
>> From http://revach.net/article.php?id=602
>> If there is no boy, points out Rav Elyashiv, do not give it to a girl.

> Why?

To which RZS replied at 9:04am EDT:
> Presumably because it's a safek whether women are obligated in havdalah,
> which is why a woman can't be motzi a man...

When one bentches al hakos, does the person who drinks the wine have to
be one of those bentching with the zimun?

What I'm asking is whether mavdilin al hakos makes the kos part of the
havdalah, or a context for saying it.

I wonder: if the kos is part of havdalah, why do we smell the besamim and
use the neir before continuing havdalah, but wait between the berakhah
and drinking the wine?

But if it is not part of havdalah, there is no reason to insure that
the person drinking the wine is mechuyeves in havdalah.

-Micha

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