[Avodah] "God who knows the future"

Lisa Liel lisa at starways.net
Wed Aug 3 07:20:22 PDT 2011


On 8/3/2011 7:54 AM, David Riceman wrote:
> RTK:
>> From our human point of view G-d makes it appear "as if" He doesn't
>> know what we will do -- He does that by the simple expedient of
>> keeping US in the dark about the future. But of course He does know
>> and yet that does not take away our bechira, because WE don't know.
>
> How do you see that in the Ramban?
>
>> To say that if G-d has total foreknowledge, then we don't have free
>> will, or if we have free will, then He doesn't have foreknowledge, is
>> a plain contradiction to what Chazal said. It's in Pirkei Avos. "Hakol
>> tzafui vehareshus nesunah."
>
> I would say that the naive translation of that is: "You can do what you
> want, but God sees what you do". "Tzafui" need not imply prediction.

Can you think of any other source where tzafui means what you suggest?

Lisa



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