[Avodah] mashiach/hesech hadaas

[Micha Berger]

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:32:13PM -0700, Saul.Z.Newman at kp.org wrote:
: ---any feeling  about  this  issue?     i think i saw  recently from maybe 
: the chiddushei harim,   that if one thinks that only  because of his lack 
: of hesech hadaas is moshiach not coming,  that  alone is the hesech 
: hadaas....

I find the blogger's take way more qabbalistic than necessary.

BTW, Sanhedrin 97a-98a has a long list of "ein ben David ba ..." Not all
of them are positive. E.g. the most cited, "ela bedor shekulo zakai or
kulo chayav", or "ad sheikhlu kol sofetim veshoterim meiYisrael." OTOH,
others are positive "ad sheyikhlu gasei ruach meiYisrael."

However, here, that's not the actual quote. "3 ba'in beheisach hadaas.
Eilu hein: mashiach, metzi'ah, ve'aqrav." And this (and a quote of R'
Zeira) are brought as suppose of a shitah that is introduced with "Davar
Acheir: ad sheitya'ashu min hage'ulah." It's about yi'ush.

Now, that could be like "kulo chayav", or because the lack of hope his
humbling (like "ad sheyiklu gasei ruach", or it could be saying that
Ben David won't come until we stop trying to bring him and just serve
Hashem to serve Hashem. Obviously the Luv Rebbe wouldn't agree with the
lattermost peshat. Or it could mean something else, if you can find one.

But there is no indication it's connected to the prohibition against
"lachashov es haqeitz".


As for Keser vs Da'as... I would suggest that Da'as differs from Zikaron
in the Da'as is aquired knowledge about how to think. Knowing who signed
the Declaration of Independence requires zikaron; knowing how to mine out
the peshat of a sugya, or do long division, requires Da'as. Thus Da'as
is the synthesis of Chokhmah and Binah, but is also the Keser from which
comes the future Chokhmah and Binah.

(And also why the Keser of one olam is the Malkhus of the one immediately
prior -- the knowledge is one level more abstract, more meta than
the material you're applying it to. Also related is RAYKook's Kantian
perspective on Malkhus, but now I'm going too far afield.)

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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