[Avodah] dina demalchuta

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Thu Jul 21 13:06:19 PDT 2011


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:09:33AM +0000, kennethgmiller at juno.com wrote:
: something written by Rav Yissochor Frand of Ner Yisrael, who gave an
: example of speeding laws. He said that when one drives, there is a range
: of speeds, slightly over the speed limit, where one is technically in
: violation of the law, but such violations are routinely ignored by the
: police. He said that DDD only recognizes the law as enforced by the
: police, not as officially written in the books.

As RAM writes, this does mean that DDD applies to all law, but that
"law" is defigned by what's enforced.

That's different than Lisa's case to which he was responding:
:> I was once a camp counselor, and I had some issues with some of
:> the inane rules that had been dictated between the time I was a
:> camper and the time I returned as a counselor.  I told my campers
:> that I had no problem with them violating those particular rules,
:> but that if they got caught, they were on their own.  This seems
:> to me a parallel situation. 

There the nimshal is the Jew who is choosing whether or not DDD compells
his enforcement of laws that the civil legal system enforce.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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