[Avodah] dina demalchuta

[Lisa Liel]

On 7/20/2011 9:08 AM, Micha Berger wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:49:08AM +0100, Chana Luntz wrote:
> : Just to slightly butt in here, I don't think you are understanding RZS's
> : argument.  He doesn't believe that DDD is an aseh or a lav, he believes it
> : is just a kind of recognition of a fact, ie a shtar is valid, or a seizing
> : of property by the king make the property legitimately the king's.  He
> : doesn't believe that this imposes on anybody any obligation to do anything.
>
> Thank you, I didn't.
>
> However, saying that a shetar is valid is identical to saying I have a
> chiyuv to abide by that shetar and identical to saying I have an issur
> against violating that shetar.

Not really.  Those stem from it, and a shtar is only one case.  You 
might as well say that every lav is an asei, because you have an 
obligation to keep the lav.

Lisa