[Avodah] R. Hirsch as a Modern Orthodox Leader

[Prof. Levine]

At 03:09 PM 7/3/2011, R. Akiva Miller wrote:


>I *did* look at the URL. And with all due respect to Rav Gifter 
>zt"l, I don't see where his explained himself adequately. He gave 
>examples of Zionists who were murderers, and even examples of 
>high-ranking zionist who were willing to murder to advance the goals 
>of Zionism. But that does not convince me that the goals of Zionism 
>are wrong, or that "Zionism is a curse".
>
>It is entirely possible that the goals of Zionism are praiseworthy, 
>and that *other* Zionists who would find ways of reaching those 
>goals in proper ways. I did not see anything in that article to 
>suggest otherwise.

The following if 
from 
<http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/zion_or_zionism.pdf>Zion 
or Zionism: Rav Shimon Schwab

On the other hand, truth compels us to state
unequivocally that most certainly Zionism is not at all
identical with Judaism, that in fact it is diametrically
opposed to it. Zionism is a political philosophy which
considers the divine Nation of the Torah a nation like all
others, albeit with certain religious traditions which you are
free to accept or to reject as an individual, and which may
or may not become part of the law of the Jewish land,
subject to a majority vote of a democratic parliament.
Zionism has transformed the holy land, the holy tongue, the
holy nation into secular entities, according atheists and
anti-religionist Jews at best equal status with firm believers.

Please see the rest of this article for more.  YL



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