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[Aryeh Stein]

>>>In this case, Halachah Berurah 125:2 (R' David Yosef) says specifically
"The minhag yisrael is like the opinion of the Ari Z"L, that the whole
tzibbur says the whole nusach of kedushah word for word together with
the shalicah tzibur, from the words 'nakishach v'na'aritzach' until the
end of the whole kedushah."

.... I do see the Mishnah Berurah in that list, though clearly the
Mishnah Berurah never mentions
the Ari Z"L.>>>

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And neither does the Aruch Hashulchan.  The Aruch Hashulchan (125:2)
explains the original din that only the chazan says "nakdishach" as a
way to prepare and invite the tzibbur to say "Kadosh, Kadosh,
Kadosh...." similar to when the chazan says kadish and only the chazan
says "Yisgadal v'Yiskdasash and tzibur only says "Yehei Shmei
Raba....")

The Aruch Hashulchan continues that there are still a few places that
are still noheg this way, but "b'kol medinasainu," the tzibur does
indeed recite "nakdishach" or "nekadesh" and there is no problem with
this, as this is way for the tzibur to prepare *themselves* to say
"Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh...."

[The Aruch Hashulchan does not say this, but perhaps the change was
needed because our attention spans have gotten shorter and maybe
listening to the chazan say "nakdishach" or "nekadesh" wasn't enough
to get our attention; therefore the minhag became that everyone should
say it themselves as a way to get ourselves ready to recite kedusha.]

(And the Aruch Hashulchan continues to explain the two tzedadim
regarding whether the tzibur should say "l'umasam baruch yomeiru" and
"u'vdivrei kadshecha kasu laimor", ayin sham.)

KT and GS,
Aryeh