[Avodah] R. Hirsch as a Modern Orthodox Leader

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Thu Jun 30 11:00:15 PDT 2011


On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 07:49:12PM +0300, Ben Waxman wrote:
> From: "Micha Berger" <micha at aishdas.org>
>> This is empty speculation, but then so is opining about tzadiq vera lo...

>> RZ violates Austritt. Zionism's success doesn't change that.

> And yes Zionism's success changes things. What was relevant in 1870 
> wasn't relevent in post Holocaust, post-1948 Israel.

But I didn't say otherwise. I explicitly did not rule out the
possibility that RSRH might have changed his philosophical stance after
the Holocaust and 1948. But within that stance, there is no justification
for becoming RZ.

What did I say was that there is nothing in RSRH's formal justification
that changed. If it is assur to join apiqursim even on community-survival
matters, the founding of the state doesn't make it mutar.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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