[Avodah] Ten Tribes (was Yovel)

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Jun 29 17:58:34 PDT 2011


On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:39:53PM +0100, Allan Engel wrote:
:> There will be a Sanhedrin that is gadol mimenu bechokhmah uveminyan.
:> So perhaps it would.

: The Gemoro specifically states that while the shevet will be revealed,
: whether someone is a mamzer or an eved will not be revealed, kiven
: d'nitme'ah nitme'ah.

Yes, but that doesn't change an entire community that weren't nitme`u
into the pool of kesheirim and contained numerous mamzeirim. An earlier
precedents was a similar question about the Qara'im.

My point was that if it's "only" assur derabbanan, the mechanism will
be in place to potentially repeal that derabbanan. Problem solved.

I wrote:
:> In any case, I still don't think they're Jewish.

And I still don't. I already cited an explicit gemara that an emergency
session of beis din either found their descendents to be non-Jewish or
enacted a ruling that de-Judaized them somehow. So I don't think the
lost shevatim are counted toward a rov in chu"l.

Nitpick: None of them are "Jewish". "Yehudi" means a descendent of
Malkhus Yehudah. But we all know what we mean here without switching
to "Benei Yisrael". Right?

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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