[Avodah] Consumer Alert: Minhog Scams On The Rise!
Zev Sero
zev at sero.name
Wed Jun 29 14:29:24 PDT 2011
On 29/06/2011 5:22 PM, Micha Berger wrote:
> To answer RZS in an email I misplaced, near the beginning of his
> haqdamah to Pereq Cheileq, the Rambam discusses three katim of people
> WRT believing aggadic stories: The first think that all these stories
> are meant literally, believe them, and thereby belittle the Torah. The
> second kat think that all these stories are meant literally, find them
> absurd and therefore ridicule the Torah. The third kat understand that
> the rabbis were speaking in parable.
>
> He has very harsh words for those who assume the historicity of these
> stories.
No. He has harsh words for those who insist that *all* stories *must*
be meant literally. He never says or even hints that none of them
are meant literally. And I don't believe he *ever* says that the
stories of R Chanina ben Dosa or R Pinchas ben Yair didn't happen.
I'm still astonished that there exist believing Jews who don't believe
those stories happened.
> Other risnonim and acharonim also tell you not to -- for that
> I again refer you to RDE's sefer and the excerpt at
> <http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol16/v16n052.shtml#13>. R' Mechy Frankel
> <http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol03/v03n152.shtml#06> quotes R' Sheirah
> Gaon, R' Shemuael ben Chofni Gaon, R' Hai Gaon, and R' Shemuel
> haNagid.
None of whom, AFAIK, cast any doubt at all on these stories.
> This notion that no O Jew would question these stories is the effect
> of O counter-reaction after R and C minimalism.
No. I'm 100% convinced that until the maskilim arose, every Jew
believed these stories. There's nothing unbelievable about them,
after all.
--
Zev Sero If they use these guns against us once, at that moment
zev at sero.name the Oslo Accord will be annulled and the IDF will
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- Yitzchak Rabin
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