[Avodah] Ehrlechkeit, not Frumkeit

[T613K at aol.com]

In a message dated 6/24/2011, llevine at stevens.edu writes:





According to me they are frum but  not ehrlech.  [--old TK]





But you  wrote earlier, "Frum is basically observant of ALL mitzvos.  I'm 
just  defining the  normal, traditional use of the word."   

Stealing and participation in scams if not observant of ALL mitzvos,  is 
it?  Is so, then how can you consider them frum.    YL

 
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By "all" I meant BALM and BALC.  I didn't mean "all" as in: only one  Jew 
in a million is frum.  I put in the word "basically" as a weasel word  to 
indicate that I meant to say that a frum person is one who in  theory keeps all 
TARYAG mitzvos but maybe in reality doesn't really actually  keep every 
single mitzva one hundred percent.  "Basically" was  kind of a giveaway that I 
mean to say, basically.
 
Beli neder I am now undertaking not to respond to any further posts on this 
 thread unless I have something significantly new to say.  I know that  
will be a departure from the norm for A. Avodah and B. me.
 
PS I am already weaseling out of my undertaking because there is  a  post 
in my "send later" folder that I never finished and I may read it and  decide 
that I do want to send it.  But after THAT.....beli neder.
 
--Toby Katz
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