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[Poppers, Michael]

R'Micha responded to RDS:
> I would conclude that halakhah is a balancing act between conflicting desiderata.... <
Agreed, and perhaps a rationale for the tzibbur saying "N'qadeish" is that they want to be and "we" want them to be involved (I'm not sure if that's what R'Micha meant by "that there be cultural continuity (mimeticism)" -- probably not :)).  At any rate, the tzibbur 'jumping the gun' on a "dialogue" between the SHaTZ and them can be seen in many other Eastern European-nusach examples (e.g. sections 2..N of a given N-section piyut, where they'll repeat section 1 after the SHaTZ begins the piyut with it and then say section 2 et al. _before_ he does), so that kind of situation doesn't surprise me.  Earlier today, I mentioned the example of unmarried bochurim, even those already b'nei mitzvah, not being misateif batalis -- perhaps that non-action could be defended in an era when taleisim were expensive (especially if the motivation was to avoid agudos, those who could afford taleisim for their boys and those who could not), but why is it treated nowadays, when taleisim are essentially affordable for all, as some sacred, positive minhag?

All the best from Michael