[Avodah] hand washing

[Eli Turkel]

If a ring is never removed it then it is not a chatziza (separation)
and need not be removed for the Mikvah either.
In particular I know of cases where the finger swelled and the lady
could not remove the ring without sawing it off.
In that case she can still go to the mikvah.

Though in principle netillat yadaim and mikvah have the same laws in
practice we are more machmir for mikvah.
For netillat yadaim this became a heated discussion during the shiur.
The maggid shiur, R. Algazi from
tzurba derabban said that if the ring is only removed very
occasionally (eg for a mikvah once a month) then
it need not be removed for netillat yadaim.  Only if she does a lot of
baking and removes it at that time does she have to remove it also for
netillat yadaim.
Similar for bandages as long as they are not removed for a length of
time they are not a chatzizah

Poskim discuss the case of a house painter whose hands become very
soiled. The early poskim say that since a painter does not usually
remove the paint stains it is not a chatzizah. Some modern poskim say
that things have changed and today painters throughly clean their
hands every night and certainly for shabbat and so it is considered
that he cares. Other poskim disagree and say that at least during
working hours it is not a chatzizah.

ROY also paskens that vaseline is not a chatzizah since it is absorbed
into the skin and not on top. Several of the participants argued about
the physical facts. The maggid shiur was also unsure about a tatoo
that was no longer valued by the person. All the partipicants argued
that in that cas eit certainly is part of the body and not a
chatzizah.

As to your wife's question, I agree with her that saying a bracha with
a ring in the mouth is problematic. Whcih is why many women put in
down but then there is the danger of loss. Hence, the suggestion to
pour a full reviit twice on each hand and move the ring in between the
two pourings. BTW a reviit is not very much. As I mentioned a typical
natlan can hold 4 reviit


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> I do not understand what you have written about a ring that is never
> removed, unless one is talking about an older woman. Aren't all rings
> removed when a woman goes to the mikvah?
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> My wife has pointed out that at times she sees woman put their rings in
> their mouths when they wash and then make a brocha before putting them on
> again.  Is this not questionable regarding the saying of a brocha with
> something in one's mouth.
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> YL
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Eli Turkel