[Avodah] Ehrlachkeit, not Frumkeit

[Poppers, Michael]

In Avodah V28n98, RAMiller asked:
> I wholeheartedly agree with this, and would love to coin a new slogan to help us focus on that idea. Something which can help us to realize that our ehrlachkeit is lacking, but without casting aspersions on frumkeit.... What we're really referring to is manners, common decency, and a realization that Bein Adam L'Chaveiro is also d'Oraisa.
> How can we communicate these ideas? This is especially difficult to people who don't appreciate that a problem even exists. <
I don't know if the "keit" portion can be modified into some sort of imperative Yiddish verb which will communicate something, but if we can't say "<modification of "Keit"> frum, not 'frumkeit'!" then at least we can skip the imperative-verb thought and stick to "Frum, not 'frumkeit'!"

In the subsequent digest, RDrYL noted:
> Please see my article <http://www.jewishpress.com/pageroute.do/19683>
"Frum or Ehrliche?" <
Indeed, when it comes to axioms, I prefer RYBreuer's "Glatt Yoshor, not 'glatt kosher'!" (Pace R'Micha -- I'll note your http://www.aishdas.org/asp/2006/03/rav-breuer-glatt-kosher-glatt-yoshor_21.shtml page, but I'll also note that RYB saw no need for 'glatt' meat if the entities being supervised were "yashar.")  Such an axiom brings us full-circle to R'Micha ZGG thoughts. 

Gut Voch/Shavua Tov and all the best from 
-- Michael Poppers via BB pager