[Avodah] mi ban siach

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:38:07PM +0000, Gershon Dubin wrote:
: From: Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
:> I dunno, I don't think I ever attended a wedding where "Mi Bon Siach" was
:> /not/ sung.

: I THINK the Sefardi (Syrian) weddings don't, hence my phrasing.

I thought RET said it wasn't commonly done in his circles. And "Turkel"
is an Ashkenazi. I was replying in surprise to that.

:> The words are based on Shir haShirim Rabba 2:4 and part of a longer piut
:>  found in Machzor Vitri.

: Did you see it in the MV?  The source I quoted IIRC couldn't find it.

I didn't. I saw the shu"t Siach Yitzchaq (Bar Ilan edition) cited the MV.
Now that I reopened it, I see he was where I saw the linkage to ShS Rabba 2
as well.

:>   The One Who knows the speech of a rose among thorns
:>   the love of a bride and the joy of lovers
:>   He will bless the groom and the bride.

: According to the Midrash cited, it is the mesader kiddushin (or other
: people who say the sheva berachos) who are intended. Not the RBSh"O.

I don't see that. It's the One Who knows the speech of the mesader
qidushin, the rose among thorns. Two levels of knowing: The mesader
qidushin is the one-in-ten of the medrash who knows how to bless the bride
and groom, and is thus the shoshan. Second, Hashem is the One Who
understands that shoshan's sichah.

And so I see the poem saying that the true blessing is not what the couple
receive as sheva berakhos, but when HQBH responds to those berakhos with
His own.

: Hence the lack of satisfaction. And what's with this ahavas kallah stuff?
: It would be banned if someone wrote it today.

You need it frummed up? I don't think it's the intent, but try:
    The One Who knows the speech of a rose among thorns,
    the Beloved of a bride and the Joy of lovers,
    He will bless the groom and the bride.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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