[Avodah] border issues

[Micha Berger]

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:34:29AM +0300, Danny Schoemann wrote:
: See Tos. "Yossi ben Yoezer" in Chagiga 16a.

: Ad lib overview:

: There was a single Machlokes between the Zugos, regarding Semicha on
: YomTov. This was the first non-resolved Machlokes.

: Hillel and Shamai argued about 3 other issues that went unresolved.

: Their numerous students - having not done enough Shimush - started
: arguing about lots of issues.

: King David's argument doesn't count since he was a minority opinion
: overruled by Shaul's Bet Din. (This refers to the MeKadesh
: beMilveh-uPruta argument. His Amoni/Amonit Chidush is not discussed.)

R' Sherira Gaon in his Igeres says the rise of machloqes really started
14 years after churban bayis and is the loss of ziv of chokhmah that came
with the death of R' Yochanan ben Zakkai. This is why the majority of
people named (and R' Meir, when left unnamed) in mishnayos are from R'
Aqiva's and his talmidim's generation.

Another thing changed during the days of batei Hillel veShammai -- the
Sanhedrin left the lishqes hagazis. I suggested here a long while ago
that that's why it took a bas qol to decide to follow Beis Hillel. By
the rules of pesaq, we should have anyway -- BH was larger. (Unlike tanur
shel achnai, where the bas qol was in disagreement to the rov.) However,
the notion of following rov without a formal count in the lishkah was
new and required strengthening..

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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