[Avodah] ein shliach le-dvar averiah

Daniel M. Israel dmi1 at cornell.edu
Wed Jun 1 13:58:39 PDT 2011


Quoting Zev Sero <zev at sero.name>:
> On 30/05/2011 8:42 PM, T613K at aol.com wrote:
>> In addition to lifnei iver, he is guilty of something much worse:  
>> by subjecting them to the rigors of Japanese prisons, he put those  
>> boys' lives at risk. What is the penalty for someone who delivers a  
>> fellow Jew into captivity among the goyim? And at the risk of their  
>> lives?

> As the man said, "ein shliach lidvar aveira".  And in any case, it's
> a very far grama; he wasn't the one who informed on them, after all.
> I don't see how he could be chayav bedinei adam, for anything except
> lifnei iver.

But RnTK's claim has nothing to do with shlichus!  And I don't know if  
the halacha would credit your presumption that the risk was remote.   
So the question is, what is the halachic status of someone who puts  
someone else's life at risk?  For example, what if anything, would be  
the punishment for someone who blindly throws rocks into an area in  
which someone is standing?  Is he chayiv for anything if he doesn't  
actually hit the person?

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Quoting Doron Beckerman <beck072 at gmail.com>:
> There is a Machlokes Tosfos-Ritva whether this rule applies where the
> Shaliach does not know he is doing an Aveirah. See Tosfos Kiddushin 42b s.v.
> Amai Ma'al.

Maybe I missed a step.  In what case under discussion did the shaliach  
not know there was an aveirah involved?

-- 
Daniel M. Israel
daniel at cornell.edu



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