[Avodah] and if it was a nedder?

[Daniel M. Israel]

Quoting Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org>:
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 07:38:57AM -0700, Saul.Z.Newman at kp.org wrote:
> : now, assuming  that she  could annul the nedder,  would it still invoke  a
> : sakana entailing divine  retribution ...
>
> ??? How could an anulled neder invoke an onesh?
> If this were possible, what would hataras nedarim mean?

I had a very similar response, except slightly more technical.  Mah  
nafshach, are we thinking halachically, or extra-halachically?  To  
create a prohibition on the basis of sakana is a halachic  
consideration, but the halachic obstacle has been removed with hataras  
nedarim.  Thinking extra-halachically (i.e., it is technically  
permissible, but perhaps one shouldn't do it anyway) we can recommend  
not doing it, but how can we import this into halachic categories and  
actually assur it as a sakana?

This fundamental machlokes seems to be the same as a question we  
discussed before, namely how we view trief food that has become  
permitted for some reason (say bitul or pikuach nefesh).  Do we say  
that once the halachic status changes there is no reason not to eat  
it, or do we say that the halacha permits it but it can still have an  
injurious effect on us?

-- 
Daniel M. Israel
daniel at cornell.edu