[Avodah] Inviting Someone On Shabbos Who Uses the Eruv, when You Don't

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed May 18 13:59:54 PDT 2011


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 01:14:13PM -0400, David Riceman wrote:
>> Rav Aahron Soloveichik held that anyone who uses the Chicago Eruv in
>> West Rogers Park is being Mechalel Shabbos D'Oraisa B'Shogeg. And that
>> those who gave a Hechsher to it are Machti Es HaRabbim B'Meizid.

> In words, there's a distinction between professional rabbis, who ought
> to know the halacha even when it's convoluted, and normal people, who,
> in practice, may not have the time or ability to learn through all the
> sugyos by themselves.

Actually, if RHM was medayeiq in his langueage, RAS assumes the rabbis
are acting bemeizid.

We're not talking about a class of people think they know the inyan
and erred in pesaq. We're talking about rabbanim who are culpable for
opening their mouths when they ought to know they're ignorant, or who
deep down know it's pasul but whose YhR deludes them into accepting
broken arguments in favor.

The reason why I found it hard to take your earlier words at face value:
> In words, there's a distinction between professional rabbis, who ought
> to know the halacha even when it's convoluted, and normal people, who,
> in practice, may not have the time or ability to learn through all the
> sugyos by themselves.

I think everyone ought to know the halakhah even when it's convoluted.
The implied division into kinds, as though being an LOR makes a halachic
distinction.

As I wrote you off-list, I was happier with your other answer, that my
quibbling over what shegegah means -- one forgetting vs one aveirah beshogeig
-- was implausible.

> Arguably professional rabbis have a responsibility to review hilchos
> Shabbos every Shabbos, and you might be able to argue that neglecting
> that obligation induces a new shegagah. I don't see how you can say
> this about RYL's friends, whom he portrays as relying on poskim rather
> than being poskim.

As implied from the above, I'd faster argue it's criminal negligance and
(at least borderline) meizid. But only if they really made a mistake
through negligance. In the case of the WRP Eruv, WADR to RAS, I don't
think that is is SO open-and-shut that we can only attribute leniency
to negligence or having negi'os.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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