[Avodah] popcorn

[Meir Shinnar]

>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:23:58PM +0300, Ben Waxman wrote (just approved
> a moment ago):
>> way that it doesn't sit or contact water... is not prohibited, since
>> the tafeil can not be more strict than the ikkar.
Micha
> It was to avoid this objection that I phrased things as I did:
>>> I thought the parallel was between qitinyos and chametz, not qitniyos
>>> and grain. IOW, qitniyos is itself an issue, not wet qitniyos.
>
> Returning to the CD, SA haRav (454:5) and the Chayei Adam (127:1) hold
> that qitniyos that was treated in ways that wouldn't produce chameitz
> in grains is not within the ban. (Although I guess that being the SAhR,
> he would have you avoid gebochts for such qitniyos too...)
>
> That said, qitniyos oil is an issue of mei qitniyos, and thus depends on
> your own locale's version of the minhag, even though oil will always be
> made without water. I think this indicates that at least those of you
> who don't consume corn oil don't hold this way. And no raayah either
> way for those of us who would consume mei qitniyos (if a hechsher would
> certify such things).
My recollection was that when RAYK zt"l kashered a kitniyot oil
factory for pesach, one of the requirements he put into place was that
it was dry pressed - the kitniyot could not touch water - and this
required modifications in the plant - and also suggests that this is
(or wasn;t) the standard.  So while some who assur mei kitniyot also
assur dry pressed, that is not all.......



BTW, the badatz used that hechsher as a means of attacking RAYK for
being meikil - and I have a theory that one of the reasons for
tremendous humrot on kitniyot today is a left over from the campaign
against RAYK...

Meir Shinnar