[Avodah] The Singular Way Of Saying Kaddish

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 12:12:08AM +1000, SBA Gmail wrote:
: Ayen KSA 15:7 saying there should be 9 'oynim' - but at least 5 (or 6?)

The QSA doesn't say "onim", he says "im ein 9 shome'im lehaSha"tz... ki
kol davar shebiqdushah ein omerim befachos mei-10". It sounds like he
assumes only the Sha"tz is saying it, and the need for 9 listeners is
minyan, not answering.

Answering requires rov of a minyan. R' Ganzfried's case is if 1-4 people
are mid-Shemoneh Esrei and thus can't answer. I don't see how this would
include 5, so I go with your "6".

In any case, the MB (OC 55:32) allows fewer answerers beshe'as hadechaq.
Whether their inability to answer is because they themselves are also
saying qaddish qualifies as "dechaq" is a different story.

BTW, in 20:2, the QSA requires 9 answerers, not just listeners -- and he
clearly distinguishes the two: "ve'eino chozeir es haTefillah raq bishvil
shome'im, velakhein tzerikhin sheyihyu davqa 9 shome'im ve'onim..."


Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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