[Avodah] colors in the gemara

[Elazar M. Teitz]

I wrote::

< Since the asiya is only mentioned in conjunction with placing the
 g'dilim in the beged, where is there a chashash of "lo min he'asuy"
on the making of the g'dilim themselves? >

To which RMicha Berger responded:

<My understanding is that they are afraid it's not a pesil tekheiles
unless it was made in the order of melakhos given in pereq Cheileq
-- and thus presumably how tekheiles was made for the mishkan.

IOW, they must be gedilim made of pesilos made of tekheiles, and
thus the wool must already be dyed as right after nefitzah.>

     Then it's _not_ a case of ta'ase v'lo min he'asuy, but of a lack of t'cheiles.

     The chumra itself, however, would seem to be made up out of the whole cloth. (Pun intended.) Where is there a scintilla of a remez that the order of listing of m'lachos has anything to do with the definition of t'cheiles?  For that matter, how do we know that the order was followed in the mishkan itself?  And if the order of listing is meant to define, does that mean that in order for a loaf of bread to be pas, it has to be made of wheat in which the sowing preceded the plowing?

EMT


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