[Avodah] diet coke

[Zev Sero]

On 3/04/2011 8:59 AM, Eli Turkel wrote:
>> Since a sweetener is made for taste, it is most certainly not batel in any
> quantity.
>
> Why not?  Kitniyos is batel berov, not beshishim, so why should taam
> be an issue?>>
>
> I understand that it is a mchloket if it batel in rov or 60.

Really?  The Rama holds rov; who holds 60?


> 2. Mei kitniyot is another level of chumra. In fact the Rama never
> explicitly outlaws it. It is an inference since he talks about oils
> dripping

The "inference" is very clear.  It's impossible to read him any other
way, so it's exactly as if he wrote it explicitly.


> 3. Corn was discovered in the Americas and so was clearly not in the
> original gezerah

And yet it's clear that it was considered part of the gezera, and nobody
ever thought otherwise.  Which proves that the original gezera was *not*
on specific species but on the whole category.


> 4. According to some shitot kitniyot is batel in rov and as Zev points
> out doesnt depend on the taste

Some?  Who says not?


> Personally we use Canola oil (a rabbi from Bnei Brak already told me
> he wouldnt eat in my home for many other reasons so this just adds one
> more)

But this shouldn't add a reason; if not for his other reasons, then at
most he should avoid things that actually contain canola oil, since he
would consider you to be "mevatel issur lechatchila".  But your kelim
should be fine, under the heter of the kelim of Bnei Rhenus.

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