[Avodah] Ten Minute Halacha - The Starbucks Controversy- Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Mar 30 16:21:40 PDT 2011


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 09:48:51AM -0400, Rich, Joel wrote:
: R'Aryeh describes the issues raised by the CRC on Kashrut issues and
: possible leniencies. A lot depends on the facts on the ground (me -
: or just say can't go into any food place that doesn't have supervision,
: just like in the old country (sarcasm alert)).

Realize that it has been common for quite a while to go into a treif
restaurant and get their coffee. And that often included relying on
stam keilim einum ben yonam on the mug you were drinking out of. Which
is really hard to understand if the restaurant gets more customers in
a day than they own cups.

When R' Ruderman recommended his talmidim to take their dates to Howard
Johnson's for ice cream and maybe coffee, he set a precedent different
than the cRc's. And IIRC, RYBS also got coffee (but AFAIK the maaseh
involved in a paper cup) from a treif establishment.

Starbucks stores are not a new metzi'us.

-Micha

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