[Avodah] TIDE, Rabbeinu Tam style

[Akiva Blum]

> From: avodah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org 
> [mailto:avodah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org] On Behalf Of Micha Berger
> Sent: Friday 25 March 2011 3:18 AM
> 
> A sichah by RYAmital recently sent out by Gush pointed to 
> Hagahos Maimonios
> Hil TT 3:2. The Rambam there is the famous bit raised 
> whenever we discuss
> kollel.
> 
> The HM quotes Rabbeinu Tam that "X im Y" means "with Y, the 
> iqar, there
> is also X". E.g. "Yechlequ yoreshei habaal im yoreshei ha'av", and
> many other examples. Such that here, R' Tam holds that "derekh eretz"
> is the iqar, and it is yafeh to have some learning with it.
> 
> Rabbeinu Elchanan (who I believe is another baal Tosefos) says the
> more obvious -- that Torah is the iqar, and relates it to "harishonim
> asu Torasam qeva umelakhtam arai."
> 

I see Rabeinu Tam not as saying that DE is the ikar of chaim, rather, the
ikar of the sentence. The maamar is saying that DE is yafe when it has Torah
with it. No discussion of which one is more chashuv than the other. All the
examples he brings are in this vein. 

However, the lashon of the HM implies that there is a machlokes RT and
Rabbeinu Elchanan. vtz"i.

Akiva