[Avodah] nittel nacht

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Thu Jan 6 22:05:47 PST 2011


 
From: "The Goldmeiers"  <gldmeier at rcn.com>
To:


So, I'm confused, which is normal really.  On Yom Hashoah, where  we ask 
that 
everyone stop for a moment of silence, That gets an argument of  Bitul 
Torah 
(let's ignore the other argument of chukas hagoyim for  now).  But an 
entire 
night of bitul is ok?

Shaya Goldmeier 

 
>>>>>
 
This is the first time I've heard the argument that the objection to Yom  
Hashoah is "bitul Torah."  Normally the question arises when charedim are  
spotted crossing the street somewhere and failing to stop for the two-minute  
siren.  They aren't learning Torah anyway while they're driving or  walking, 
so stopping for a moment wouldn't be bitul Torah.  The reasons  chareidim 
don't do Yom Hashoah have been much discussed, no need to rehash,  except for 
one over-arching principle, which is, they don't recognize yom tovim  or 
taaneisim or days of mourning promulgated by secular Jews.
 
Personally I have not heard of one charedi rav or posek who holds that  it 
is assur to stop and stand still for a moment when the siren sounds  (though 
some may say it's not necessary).  
 
Bitul Torah is not an issue.
 
Indeed, mipnei darchei sholom, the vast majority of charedim do  indeed 
stop for the siren when they are out in public, and that is by far the  
majority psak.  

 

--Toby Katz
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