[Avodah] Just one Hashem in Heaven

[Micha Berger]

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 01:01:52AM +0100, Arie Folger wrote:
: RMB wrote:
:> The dispute about the nature of tzimtzum is a -- and possibly
:> THE -- philosophical point of departure between the Gra and
:> Chassidus.

: THE other THE point is the nature of deveikut. Quite major
: disagreement, but nowadays quite unknown.

Except by those who were here in the era when "Forks" conversations
were common.

I would say that Livaks downplayed deveiqus altogether, keeping the
focus on sheleimus and then (2nd generation, Nefesh haChaim) declaring
deveiqus a consequence/feature of sheleimus.

Second, I think that the disagreement about deveiqus is beyachad with
the disagreement about tzimtzum. Only if we think of HQBH is Immanent,
is Chassidic deveiqus a possibility.

I would be that Chassidus focused on deveiqus and therefore drifted
to that understanding of tzimtzum. That's looking at the order each
was embraced. However, in terms of the causal chain in each completed
line of reasoning, tzimtzum is logically prior to deveiqus. And so,
the different undertandings of tzimtzum are used to explain different
notions of how man finds the Divine.

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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