[Avodah] Local, Non-Global or Global Flood
Micha Berger
micha at aishdas.org
Mon Nov 29 16:18:22 PST 2010
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 06:53:04PM -0500, Zev Sero wrote:
> Sigh. I haven't got the patience to go through the rest of your
> invalid arguments, but I can't let this one pass by. *No, he doesn't*.
> It is simply a sheker. Read the very page that you cited; it couldn't
> be clearer. It says (as everyone knows and agrees) that "yamim" can and
> often does mean a year. It makes no such claim about "yom".
Before you call something a lie... I am waiting for you to prove that
a word and its plural mean different things. That's an artificial
distinction that you need to show. Until then, I feel free to assume
that if yamim achadim can be years, than yom can be a year...
(And speaking as a human being: I think calling a contradictory opinion
to your own a "lie" just weakens the listener's belief that there is a
sound argument behind the bluster.)
You still ignore issues like the use of "yom" in Bereishis 2:4 to describe
that the previous pereq told us took a week -- or an unstated amount
of time plus a week. So even if we established the Radaq, it wouldn't
impact the greater point about yom.
AND, even if we established that you were correct about yom (including
the yom asher hu lo yom velo laylah), we still didn't impact my original
point -- that the issue isn't which is the literal meaning of yom,
but which intent is the mesoretic one. If yom literally meant day,
but numerous rishonim say here it means "stage in causal process" --
I don't care if that's literal or allegorical. And if yom literally
meant day, but the whole concept of yom/day WRT the period in question
is unfathomable by humans, I similarly don't care.
That was my whole reason for pointing out that one can argue yom means
something other than day by denying literality or by insisting on it. To
show that both get you to the same point.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha
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