[Avodah] Rashbi and full time learning

Arie Folger afolger at aishdas.org
Sun Oct 31 11:41:19 PDT 2010


RMB wrote:
> The SC says that Rashbi only held of Torah only when he left the cave
> the first time. Then he looked up, killed someone, went back in for
> a year -- where he learned a derekh of fusing Torah into olam hazeh.
> The gemara in Berakhos is quoting Rashbi after the first departure
> from the case, but the Y-mi has Rashbi after the 2nd departure
> from the cave. And thus Rashbi's final masqanah is the same as
> R' Yishma'el's -- go get a job!

R'Yoel Bin Nun says the same thing: RSBY went through an evolution in
his thinking.

However, rather than take the ma'hloqet between him and RY as the core
issue in RSBY's thinking, he looks at the conversation that led to
RSBY retreating into a cave. At stake was:How do we react to/deal with
the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt and the fact that the polytheist
Romans will now definitely set the tone for a long time. See the good
the Romans do and adapt? Accept begrudgingly? Or retreat from society
because it is irreparably broken, until the tides change? RSBY went
for the latter. Eventually, however, he realized that there is a third
way: under Roman occupation, forge a Jewish society that advances
slowly but surely and tries to build that society up as much as
possible, while rejecting the objectionable.

While I am not entirely convinced of how he shoehorns R'Y and R'SBY's
disagreement into his all over framework, he does bring enough
evidence to show that he is onto something big.

The shiur is available in mp3, I believe it is the following one:
http://www.ypt.co.il/show.asp?id=28908

KT,

-- 
Arie Folger,
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