[Avodah] G'mar Tov Vs G'mar Chasima Tova

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From: Simon Wanderer <>
Anyone have any thoughts / sources on G'mar Tov Vs G'mar Chasima Tova ?
 I would have expected this to be well-trodden ground on the internet, but a
quick google search did not turn anything up.
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I am almost positive that (just like every other topic under the sun) we
have discussed this here or on Areivim previously (and maybe even more than
once).

Being a bit of a 'wanderer' myself right now, I don't have quick access to
my usual seforim, but IIRC, the Munkatcher Rav zt'l is strongly against
"Gmar Tov",
Again, IIRC,the reason being because it sounds like you are wishing a 'good
finish' (which could indicate-  to that person's life), and the last thing
we want to wish or talk about is the end of someone's life.

If anyone has the Darkei Chaim veSholom, he should find it there - I think.
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2) Shouting "Leshono Habo beYerushalayim" after Neilah - when in Yerushalyim
- is obviousld not  an issue for your standard Charedi 'non-zionist','
'non-reshit tzemichat geulatenu' types.
But I was (quite seriously) wondering what the RZ's here in Jm were thinking
as they said it.

And if the answer is that for them it refers to the rebuilding of the BHMK,
shouldn't the wording of this age-old bakasha be altered? In fact it should
have been done so at the time of the invention of "RTzG" and "Aschalta
deGeula" terms.

And if it wasn't done then, maybe someone should put in a request to the
Sanhedin )presumably they are still around - despite having been very quite
recently) or that (ex-Australian-rabbi led) Shiloh thing - who don't have
any fears of changing tradition etc? (Come to think of it, they too have
been out of action for quite a while.)

And to those who haven't yet heard or read the explanation of the SR zt'l on
why we say' Leshana HABO' and not "Beshana Zu" - ayen the Artscroll YK
Machzor, vetimtza nachas.

Wishing all a continuing Gemar Chasima Tova and a Git YT

SBA
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