[Avodah] Testing Hashem with Maaser

[Micha Berger]

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 02:59:14AM +0200, Tal Moshe Zwecker wrote:
: I seem to remember there being a dissenting opinion to the one found
: in Rama YD 247 besides the ones quoted in Pischei Teshuva, like a modern
: day posek saying that bezeman hazaeh we should not test Hashem this way,
: anyone know?

Maaser bizman hazeh is derabbanan. There is a question as to whether it
comes with the same berakhah. (Similar to the question of whether poultry
and milk, presuming it's also derabbanan, causes timtum haleiv.)
See <http://www.aishdas.org/asp/2007/07/safeiq-derabbanan.shtml>.

The shitos of the the Meshekh Chokhmah and the Me'iras Einayim would
imply the test wouldn't work. (The MC writes about owf bechalav, the
SMA about the berakhah of shemittah.) The idea is that a derabbanan is
a good idea as a practice, but doesn't reflect metaphysical "entities".

To show the other side, R' Elchanan Wasserman, the SA haRav, and the
CI all make comments that imply that they do believe that dinim
derabbanan have metaphysical effect.

AFAIK, though, no one dissents about the idea that maaser is the one area
in which we are called upon to test HQBH, the exception to the rule. (Why
isn't shemittah counted?) However, one could argue this is only maaser
deOraisa, as no such promise was given to derabbanan.

GCT!
-Micha

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