[Avodah] Milchig Bread

[Jacob Farkas]

R' Akiva Blum:
>> > Nothing in the words of the AhS contradicts this Chavas
>> Daas. The bread has
>> > signs, widely known signs - at the time of baking. The AhS
>> speaks only about
>> > simanim that are evident at the time of baking.

Jacob Farkas:
>> See AhS 97:6-97:8. Yes, the AhS concludes differently from
>> Chavas Da'as.
>>

R' Akiva Blum:
> The chiddush in the AhS is that even though the bread has no unique signs, it is
> kosher because it is widely recognized. The recognition is however already
> existant at the time of baking.

AhS has 3 justifications for Milchig Sukhariki, after he claims that
they do not differ in appearance from their pareve counterparts. 1)
The baker's claim that they do look significantly different. 2) People
buy for immediate consumption, and we can be lenient like Rema who
permits baking for immediate consumption. 3) Derived from Teshuvas
Maharit, that when an object is declared and thus known as Milchig, it
does not need any external modification.

#3 should apply when one bakes items that will be placed in packages
that have external notifiers declaring that said object is Milchig.

The Chavas Daas would not agree to this, because he specifically
states that declaration is not sufficient. AhS, who is of the opinion
that declaration and public knowledge is sufficient, would not have an
issue with someone baking a Milchig bread that may look pareve when
everyone knows that this bread will be milchig. Justification #3 work
even in the absence of justification #1.

--Jacob Farkas