[Avodah] Milchig Bread

[Akiva Blum]

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> From: avodah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org 
> [mailto:avodah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Farkas

> >> The OU and star-K used to give hechsheirim to bread that says dairy
> >> on the label, relying on RYBS following his father, who in 
> turn held
> >> like the Chokhmas Adam and AhS that an external label is 
> sufficient.
> >
> R Zev Sero
> > Where does the AhS say this?  I'm looking at it now and I don't see
> > any such heter.
> 
> AhS YD 97:8 states that if it is made public knowledge that the item
> is dairy, then the item is permissible without the otherwise required
> shape modification. I can totally see how an external label on a
> packaged item would satisfy this criteria.
> 



AhS YD 97:8 states that if it is made public knowledge that the item
is dairy, then the item is permissible without the otherwise required
shape modification. I can totally see how an external label on a
packaged item would satisfy this criteria.


The Chavas Daas states that the identification must be at the time of baking.
After baking, one cannot change the shape or size of the bread. It is already
ossur. Bread which is baked in a recognizable milchik shape already declares its
status at the time of baking. Once it becomes ossur, it cannot become muttar.

Nothing in the words of the AhS contradicts this Chavas Daas. The bread has
signs, widely known signs - at the time of baking. The AhS speaks only about
simanim that are evident at the time of baking.

Akiva