[Avodah] intelligent design

[Richard Wolpoe]

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:03 PM, <T613K at aol.com> wrote:

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> 3.  The universe is the product of intelligent design, i.e, it was
> created.  Exactly what steps occurred between the first moment of yesh
> me'ayin, and how long those steps took, until we arrived at our present
> moment -- may be the subject of debate.  But surely a Torah Jew cannot deny
> the existence of a Designer and still be Orthodox?
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> *--Toby Katz
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IMHO it's a matter of our limited intelligence and perhaps ignorance of what
actually happened.  Debates are speculative in natrue

We BELIEVE in the Torah narrative - in some level. [Some might posit that
Sefer Yetsira is a more accurate narrative of CREATION than the one in
Breishis and still be very good Jews]

No matter

AISI - What we understand as Jews is Just as Rn Katz stated, the universe is
far too complex to be a random co-incidence.  Deists have insisted that The
CREATOR finished HIS job and left the machine to run on its own.

>From logic w/o emunah, we can see this POV has a hava amina.  OTOH, we - the
Children of Israel - know from Y'tzias Mtzrayin and Mattan Torah that beyond
creation there is Hashgacha, too. So Deism is not kosher for us, while it
might still be Kosher for Gentiles.  Maybe that's the difference between the
Zachor of Shabbos in Vaychuluin Breishis - which even Gentiles must
ackonowledge, and the Shamor or the V'Shamru in Ki Sissa that confirms on
ongoing covenant.


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